Wednesday 4 November 2020

Driving in Malaysia - Can you still drive with your UK (or other country's) driving licence / drivers license and an International Driving Permit?

I have recently seen a lot of social media posts by people asking if a UK (or other country’s) driving licence can still be used with an International Driving Permit (IDP). 

Some people have stated that ‘the rules changed last year’ but provide no evidence of what ‘rules’ they are referring to. The Road Transport Act 1987 (which sets out the rules for driving in Malaysia) is still in force, and has recently been amended to bring in stricter penalties regarding dangerous driving and drink driving.

I decided to email JPJ to check for certain and I received a response from them on 30 October 2020 confirming you “can use UK Valid Domestic Driving License and International Driving Permit (IDP) (According to the defined format on the Convention on Road Traffic Geneva 1949) to drive in Malaysia.” 

If you hold a licence other than from the UK you will need to check with JPJ, but my understanding is that for many countries you will be able to use your home licence and an IDP.

As getting an IDP from your home country can be inconvenient and/or costly (and due to Covid-19 is even more challenging) then you may decide to take the JPJ driving test. I took my test in March 2020. See my post here: https://spousevisamalaysia.blogspot.com/2020/03/malaysian-driving-lessons-test-for.html

There is more detail on the Road Transport Act 1987 here:

** UPDATE January 2021**
Note that it appears that JPJ will now allow more foreign citizens to convert their foreign driving licence - see my updated post here: https://spousevisamalaysia.blogspot.com/2016/05/driving-in-malaysia-do-you-need-to-ask.html

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Monday 29 June 2020

Guide to Renewal of Long Term Social Visit Pass in Malaysia (Spouse Visa) - June 2020

Guide to Renewing Long Term Social Visit Pass in Malaysia 2020
(otherwise known as a Spouse Visa or Spouse Pass)

I went through the renewal process in June 2020 at the Jalan Duta Centre in KL, the process may be different if you are using another state office.

The Immigration website says that LTSVP are granted for up to 5 years. However, at Jalan Duta (KL) the maximum now granted is 1 year, even if you have previously been given a longer pass.

Due to the COVID-19 movement control restrictions the process was completely different from previously and is much better as you can now make an appointment online and the LTSVP is issued the same day you submit your application.

For the LTSVP renewal process the following forms need to be completed:

1) Statutory Declaration that the marriage is still subsisting (1 copy) with 1 photo each of the applicant & Malaysian spouse affixed to it

2) Form Imm.38 (1 copy)

3) Form Imm.55 (1 copy) 

You can get the forms from Immigration.

You will also need to bring the following to your appointment:

a) Applicant's Passport
b) Malaysian spouse’s Identification Card
c) Photocopy of applicant’s Passport data page
d) Photocopy of last entry stamp into Malaysia from the applicant’s Passport
e) Photocopy of current LTSVP
f) Photocopy of Malaysian spouse’s Identification Card (both sides) 
g) Photocopy of Marriage Certificate (also bring the original as Immigration may want to see it)

If you have children you need to bring copies of their birth certificates.

Note that the Immigration website previously stated that the husband’s/wife’s birth certificate needs to be submitted as well. Other people have also said that a copy of the deeds/tenancy agreement for your house/apartment and 3 months of utility bills are needed. I was not asked for any of these but it is worth bringing them in case you are.

Step by Step guide: 

1) Make an appointment online at https://www.imi.gov.my/ . Choose STO option and choose [VISA] - LANJUTAN PAS (JANGKA PANJANG) / LONG TERM VISIT PASS EXTENSION and not any of the ‘PENGUATKUASA’ options, or you will be turned away when you arrive for your appointment!

2) Complete all the forms. Both the applicant and the Malaysian spouse must sign the Statutory Declaration in front of a Commissioner for Oaths. To save time it is best to do this before you attend your appointment. We had previously used the one downstairs at the Jalan Duta centre, but this time we used one in Lucky Garden for RM20.

3) Both the applicant and the Malaysian spouse go to Immigration with all of the requested documents. Dress rules may be enforced e.g. no shorts/t-shirts/slippers/short skirts; you may be turned away if you are not dressed correctly.

4) We had a 730am appointment so arrived at 645am and were able to park on the road leading to the main gate. Join the queue in the middle of the gate (not the one to the right of the gates which is for JPN). If you arrive later you may need to park in the car park at the Syariah Court and join the queue which can stretch round the corner!

5) When the gate is opened the officers at the gate will check your appointment letter (you must bring a paper copy of your appointment email) and passport/IC. You  then go to the main building to have your temperature taken before going upstairs to have your forms checked. You will be asked to fill in a health declaration and, if your LTSVP expired during the MCO, a form to explain why. Only the foreign spouse will be allowed to go past this point and so must take all of the documents, including the Malaysian spouse’s original IC, and a credit card or debit card to make payment as cash is not accepted. The Malaysian spouse needs to wait outside.

6) At the entrance to the visa department your documents will be checked again and you have to turn off your phone. Your temperature is taken again and you will be given a queue number.

7) Once inside your number will be called and you submit your forms and supporting documents. Wait for your number to be called again so that you can make payment (RM90 per year). Be aware that tickets for the payment counter are not called in order.

8) Your number will be called again and you will get your passport back with a new LTSVP. Check the correct pass and period has been given. On this occasion I only received a 1 year renewal despite previously having a 5 year pass. The whole process took 1 hour from the gate being opened to getting the new pass, but if you do not get there early it will take longer.

If you need more information join the following Facebook Groups which have a lot of useful posts:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ForeignSpouses/

and

https://www.facebook.com/FSSGMY/

 

The Immigration Facebook page also has regular updates:

https://www.facebook.com/imigresen/  


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Monday 9 March 2020

Driving in Malaysia - JPJ Driving Test for foreign licence holders


Changes by JPJ in 2019 mean that a foreign driving licence can no longer be converted to a Malaysian driving licence (except for a few specific cases such as people holding MM2H visas). [UPDATE January 2021 - more classes of visa holders are now allowed to convert their licences - see https://spousevisamalaysia.blogspot.com/2016/05/driving-in-malaysia-do-you-need-to-ask.html ]

The changes also mean that many foreign driving licences now need to be accompanied by an International Driving Permit (IDP). However, driving on an IDP may only be legal for a limited period of time.

I therefore decided to take driving lessons and the JPJ driving test, all of which can be done in English (although some BM is still useful). It is not difficult, but to pass you will need to spend some time and money on the process. You are required to take lessons through an approved instructor/school.

From my experience I think that the minimum time needed is as follows:
1) Theory Class (6 hours, done in 1 day).
2) Theory computer test (around 10 minutes, but needs to be taken on a separate day).
3) Lessons on closed circuit (6 hours, can be done in 1 day but some schools insist on 3 lessons in 2 hour blocks).
4) Lessons on road (If you have previous driving experience you may not need to do much of this, but it can take up to 10 hours with some schools insisting on 5 lessons in 2 hour blocks).
5) Qualifying Test at Institute (QTI) (1 hour, this is for your instructor to check you are ready for the test).
6) Driving Test (took around 3.5 hours, including a lot of waiting time).
There are compulsory waiting times between some of the stages, but if you already have driving experience then I think the process could be done in about 3 months.

Cost:
There are a wide variety of charges by different driving schools, which seem to range from RM1,500 to RM2,500 for a manual driving licence, with the most expensive including services such as free pick up and drop off and no fee to re-sit in case you fail the test. 

Check where your instructor/school carries out the lessons, as they can be in places such as Subang, Gombak, PJ etc. You may want to choose an instructor/school where lessons take place near you.

The Driving Test:
From my experience, the driving schools main aim is to get you to pass your test. They are not trying to create good or safe drivers! To pass the test you simply need to mimic exactly what they show you! Some of the driving standards I saw from learner drivers on the day of their test (i.e. after their instructor deemed them to be good enough to sit the test!) were very poor.

The basic elements of the driving test (for manual driving licence) are:

RPK (Vehicle Inspection Routine):
Carry out visual checks under bonnet, of road tax, windscreen, tyres, any damage, boot for spare tyre/warning triangle/jack.

RSM (Routine Before Driving):
Check handbrake, gear is in neutral, seat, seat belt, rear view mirror, side mirror, indicators, wipers, hazard lights and horn.

Slope Test:
Stop on a slope with front wheel on yellow line, and then move away when asked to do so by examiner.

Zeds & Esses:
Manoeuvrability test through a zig zag and curved road layout.

Side Parking:
Reverse parking into marked box.

3 Point Turn:
Reverse/turn around in 3 smooth movements.

Road Test:
If you don’t fail any of the above then you will carry out the Road Test with a JPJ examinerThe requirements of this will depend on where you take your test, but generally it is a drive of 3km or 5km for the examiner to test your on road skills.

After Completing the Test:
Once you have passed your test you can apply for a Probationary Driving Licence (PDL) at JPJ and you will need to display 'P' stickers on your car. The cost of a 2 year PDL is RM120. Once you have held a PDL for 2 years you can convert it to a full Competent Driving Licence (CDL).

Links to some driving schools (prices as at Oct 2019):
https://www.facebook.com/onestopdrivingcentre/ (RM1,500. Fast process. Lessons in Gombak)
http://www.sdc.com.my/ (RM2,059. Process seems slow. Lessons in PJ)
https://metrodriving.com.my/en/ (RM2,500. Claim to be the fastest! Lessons in Subang or Puchong)

There are other instructors/schools available. Not all of the above get great reviews online, so check carefully before signing up with any of them!

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